“A nation that conscripts its daughters for its defense is a nation that no longer deserves a defense.”

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One of the many things that wasn’t debated at Saturday night’s GOP “debate” was the presumption of American State ownership of the American people when it comes to the notion of a military draft. These days, it’s just a given that the State owns everything, including even your body, should it decide that there is a slot in its perpetual war machine that “needs” to be filled by your body, all “for the good of the collective”, of course. That’s just how “conservatism” rolls here in “the land of the free” these days.

The State owns everything.

The State owns everyone.

Or so it thinks (and wants us to think), anyway.

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Which is where State-run children’s “education” comes in, embedding from childhood on the presuppositions that are essential to fostering a State-centered worldview, thereby creating the submissive, compliant, domesticated and utterly State-dependent culture that we have now in America.

After generations of Statist indoctrination at Statist Temples (“schools”), we have arrived at a point where the State is able to openly claim ownership over our homes, our bodies, and pretty much everything else, all while programming us to sing on cue about living in a “land of the free”, pledge on cue our allegiance to the indivisible political power of the American State, and ramble on at the drop of a hat about the freedom-enabling awesomeness of the American State.

So it shouldn’t come as any surprise at all that our beloved Statist “leaders” on the Pagan Political Right took roughly three tenths of a second to roll over and accommodate the flagrantly anti-Christ, pro-Statist aim of registering women for the unbiblical draft.

In the wake of last weekend’s GOP/Statist “debate”, which touched on this subject in a revealing manner, Doug Wilson chimed in with some helpful observations:

Once you have signed off on the nation/state conscripting your daughters to go serve in combat roles, whatever it was you thought you were conserving — thus allowing you to call yourself a conservative — has had a fork stuck in it and is done. Nothing really to conserve any more.

A nation that conscripts its daughters for its defense is a nation that no longer deserves a defense.

Let that one soak in.

Deeply.

Wilson continues:

. . . some Christians will want to say that the Bible doesn’t say anything about this issue, and so — they say — traditionalists are just getting themselves whizzed up for the sake of some old-timey cultural values. Where does the Bible say anything about this?

Let’s wade into this from the shallow end.

First, when God had His people go to war, only the men were mustered. Males, twenty years old and up, were mustered for war (e.g. 2 Sam. 24:9). Incidentally, not to get sidetracked, but forced conscription for men is not biblical either. In Scripture the men were mustered, but were not forced to fight. If they did not want to fight, even for dishonorable reasons like fear, they were free to go home. So when a government conscripts men, they are forcing them into a vocation that men are in fact called to perform, with the coercion creating an injustice. But when a government conscripts women for combat, that government has declared war on the permanent things. It is degrading to the women involved, and an utter disgrace to the men who allow it to happen.

. . . the Bible flatly prohibits the kind of perverse thinking that would put women into combat. “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God” (Deut. 22:5). That “which pertaineth unto a man” is a rendering of keli geber, which literally refers to the gear of a warrior. Men are prohibited from chasing after the transvestite kick, whatever that is, and women are prohibited from decking themselves out as an infantryman. It is easy for modern secularists to lump this in with the prohibition of clam chowder, but for those who read the Scriptures with understanding, it should be lumped in with the abominations of sodomy and witchcraft. Unfortunately, many Christians will fall for this latest abomination because it has been artfully decked out in red, white, and blue.

And there you have it – the [ahem] Trump card of American Statism: Patriotism

Just wrap a thing  – anything – artfully enough in the red, white and blue of America, and the vast majority of Americans – the vast majority of whom claim to be Christians – will dutifully bow and obey, often quite happily and always proudly.

That’s what generations of State-run “education” has done for (and to) us.

The American State has taken down marriage.

The American State has taken over our homes.

The American State has emasculated and muted our churches.

The American State has overrun and dominated our culture.

And now the American State is coming for our daughters as it never has before.

[insert “U! S! A!” chant here]

Way to go, “American men”.

On that note, and in response to it, I’d like to echo and amen Doug Wilson’s closing sentiments:

I have argued elsewhere that a man’s central obligation before God is to provide for his family and to protect them. He should bring up his sons to do the same. An essential part of that protection would be to protect your daughters from the appalling policy that would (apparently) be upheld by a President Rubio. So under a President Rubio, it is possible that some of my granddaughters might be drafted. But it is not possible for that to happen without a number of the men around them going to jail first.


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  1. An excerpt from Excerpt from "When Soldiers Walk a Mile in Her Shoes" http://theeighthbeast.com/2015/05/23/when-soldier

    Deuteronomy 22:5 – The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

    Many have taken this verse for face value based upon its English transliteration and therefore have fallen into legalism, meaning they have added a definition to it that is not really being applied in the original Hebrew. Such is why there has been strict guidelines in history where women's and men's apparel have been kept starkly distinct from each other, such as women having to wear dresses and not pants. But clearly there are pants fashioned uniquely for women that would be inappropriate for men, likewise we have all seen the "kelts," the "skirt-type garment with pleats at the rear, originating in the traditional dress of men and boys in the Scottish Highlands of the 16th century."

    If we want to get really biblical we would have to acknowledge that Jesus didn't wear pants, but a loincloth and robe possibly accompanied with a wrap of sorts. So then we are left trying to discern then what exactly is the verse above telling us? To start, let's look at the Hebrew word translated to the English word "man."

    Deuteronomy 22:5 – The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man <geber>, neither shall a man<geber> put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

    Strongs definition of geber is properly; a valiant man or warrior; generally, a person simply:–every one, man, X mighty.

    This Hebrew word <geber> is used 68 times in 64 verses, but only these two times here in Deuteronomy 22:5. What makes that especially noteworthy is the English words "men" (23) and "man" (81) are used a total 104 times in 92 verses in Deuteronomy, and add to that "him" (28), "his" (57), "father" (12), and "husband" (5) for a grand total of 206 times that the male gender has been specifically referenced in English transliteration Deuteronomy.

    That means that this one verse out of 92 represents just barely 1% of all the passages in Deuteronomy referencing men; that's because it's not referencing just a "man" but "a valiant man or warrior."

    Here's a favorite verse of mine where that same Hebrew geber word was used – Proverbs 30:18 – There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not: 19 The way of an eagle in the air; the way of a serpent upon a rock; the way of a ship in the midst of the sea; and the way of a man <geber> with a maid.

    For here the writer speaks of how a man who has been trained to fight and kill can still be so tender with a maiden, the contrast of a warrior and a lover. Consider these verses as well –

    Isaiah 22:17 – Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty <geber> captivity, and will surely cover thee.
    Jeremiah 17:5 – Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man <geber> that trusteth in man <adam>, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
    Jeremiah 17:7 Blessed is the man <geber> that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.
    Jeremiah 41:16 Then took Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces that were with him, all the remnant of the people whom he had recovered from Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, from Mizpah, after that he had slain Gedaliah the son of Ahikam, even mighty men <geber> of war, and the women, and the children, and the eunuchs, whom he had brought again from Gibeon:

    The inference of the verse in Deuteronomy is clear, a woman should not wear that which pertains unto a warrior, no more than a warrior should put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. What this verse is saying is that a woman should not adorn the outfits, armor, instruments of arms, or uniforms of war; no more than a warrior or soldier should put on women's garments.

  2. NOT SURPRISING THAT YOU DID NOT POST MY COMMENTS SINCE IT DOES NOT FIT YOUR AGENDA. TALKING ABOUT A FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION LOVING CHRISTIAN SIGHT. YOU SEE, THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH ANY AND EVERY RELIGION ( NOT GOD OR JESUS), THEY ARE ALL DISEASED AND FULL OF HEAT AND AMBITION FOR CONTROL AND THEY ALL BELIEVE THEY HOLD THE REAL TRUTH AND REAL CONNECTION TO THE ALL MIGHTY. THEY HAVE ALL BEEN FACILITATORS OF THE DARK FORCES. THANKS ANYWAY. PUMA.

  3. With rights come responsibilities.

    The “right” to vote comes with the responsibility to go to war to protect that right.

    Women have brought this upon themselves and it should be forced upon them until they relinquish that “right”, & bring it back to a Godly system once again.

    • You don't "bring it back to a Godly system" by openly rebelling against the crystal clear Word of God. That's satanically stupid logic, there.

  4. @Jim, the blog moderator answered my question by saying the IDF example is different because they are defending their nation and not sending their women to foreign nations which is ironic considering the title of the article.

  5. I’m having a problem with the way some here are using the terms “America” and “American”.

    My understanding is that America is from the Gaelic am-el-ri-ca ( heavenly kingdom ); aka Rule of God or Kingdom of God. Supporting this idea is the word “president” – one who presides in the office of another. George Washington refused to be called king. He knew something.

    If you mean United States, the Federal government, Washington DC (district of criminals), central goobermint, say that and quite insulting the word America.

    America will survive the United States (corporation). Isaiah 9:7

  6. Along with my earlier comments; I assert that no Christian man should volunteer to serve in the armed forces of the US. The American State uses soldiers to project its POWER wherever it feels, based on the political and business pursuits of the Elite in Washington. Our army does not fight to "protect our Freedoms", which have been being eroded by our own government for the last 100 years. The exception being WW2 I suppose. This is not to disparage our veterans themselves, who acted selflessly. Currently the US State engages in EVIL acts of aggression, to pursue its interests, and many times they are not the interests of the American people. The proper place for the American Christian man to serve is in the Militia. Problem is there really is no such thing anymore. (That I know of)

  7. They want women because it WEAKENS the military that Democraps want. It also demoralizes a nation. But wait till you LOSE because of it.

    This is the desire of liberals and Democraps.

  8. Maybe now Americans will discuss the illegal draft! Now we can have a debate on the illegal wars we have fought and are fighting. Now we can discuss ownership of our bodies and our God given rights!

  9. Isaiah 3:12 – As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

  10. What is your response to conscription by the State of Israel regarding its females? Doe this make Israel an ungodly nation, one not worthy of our support?

  11. It is a depopulation tool as well since the age group of draftees are the prime years for marrying and having children. Birth control and free abortions will likely be standard to keep pregnancies down among troops. When I bring this up to adult men they either look at me with a quizzical look and then say either…..most girls will never qualify for the draft physically or that their children are not in that age group anymore. Ignoring the problem while droning on and on about sports, etc ad nauseum. The real men of America with true Christian values need to stand up against this now beforehand not after Congress approves it.

  12. A similar side note to this, does not adhering to Romans chp 13 also qualify as an abomanation? If you beleive so then, our country was in rebellion to England and to The Lord, and King George was right when he labeled us Rebels. For God placed King George in authority over us in 1770s

    • There's the Hitlerian view of Romans 13, in which the passage is yanked from its biblical context and ridiculously used as a "blank check" for authority to be granted to the State, and then there's the biblical view of Romans 13, which is taken in the full context of Romans and all of Scripture as a complete, coherent whole.

      Every time – and there are many – that Romans 13 uses phrases like "do what is good", "if you do wrong" and "rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad", the terms "good", "bad" and "wrong" are all to be defined biblically, not by the whims of man. When Romans 13 describes a civil magistrate as "God's servant for your good" and "the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer" (verse 4), the Scripture-defined context is clear even if only reading Romans 13 apart from Romans 12, Romans 14, or any of the rest of Scripture.

      Government authorities are bound by the Word of God. They are subject to the authority of Christ the King who reigns above them and – this is important – who is at the top of the chain of authority described in Romans 13.

      Here's where that chain of authority tops out, according to Jesus as recorded in Matthew 28:18-20:

      And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you."

      Adhering to Romans 13 means honoring the King of kings above all else and refusing to obey any command issues by any *lesser* authority that would have us sin (with sin defined as doing something God has forbidden or failing to do something that God has commanded).

      I hope that these clarifications are helpful.

      Thanks for chiming in and have a great weekend!

      In His grip,

      Scott

  13. Problem with that Rodney is that wars are run by the money changers not the people. Govt has been beholden to them since the beginning and not the people.

  14. What should women do if the men won’t fight or protect them as declared by the Word? What if the men have been co scribed and left th Homefront defenseless, what if men with evil intents destroy the men from fighting a just war? Conscript at a time of peace not ok, conscript during a state of war,? What if the women Jews during WW2 that fought, what of the french women, what of our own women of the American Revolution, Civil War et al? If it’s wrong now it was wrong then. Are they an abomination for fighting for Liberty?
    Just questions to consider
    Side note I have two daughters, I am not supportive of this movement.

  15. Women are precious and deserve protection by real men and will be protected! The problem is, where are the real men anymore? Women have craved the authority of the man since the punishment in the garden, your craving would be for the man's power / authority. If you deny women anything these days, they themselves want to rain down hailstones from heaven upon you! So unfortunately, we have come to a place where the feminist have entrapped the real women into equality. Christian men will defend their women to the death against this demonic notion/nation!!!

  16. I was rather heartbroken when I read about this issue. I have two daughters that are 23 and 21 and I have reared them to be keepers as home. I have homeschooled them and have keep them with us most of the time at church and not placing them in the children's church and teen classes very much, some when they were younger, but when they were older we kept them with us, and they never participated in the teens groups. Got much flak from this and also accused of not rearing them right. Boy Christians can be so righteous attacking another mother. Anyway I almost fainted when men were saying that women should be registered for the draft and also read about men going to court and trying to force the government to have women register because men and women have to be made equil come hell or high water.

    • DEAR BOBBI, READING YOUR COMMENT WAS ALSO HEART BREAKING TO ME… JUST AS YOU HAVE 2 DAUGHTERS I HAVE TWO BOYS AND I AM SURE THAT I LOVE THEM AS MUCH AS YOU LOVE YOUR DAUGHTERS. IT IS NOT CHRISTIAN SIR NOT MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT TO EXPECT THAT OUR BOYS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT SHOULD GO TO FIGHT AND DIE AND THEN COME BACK IN A BODY BAG. YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT CHURCH BUT NOT ABOUT STOPPING ALL THESE CRIMINAL WARS SO OUR SONS ARE NOT KILLED SERVING THE SUPER ELITES. I ALSO DO NOT SEE PEOPLE LIKE YOUR DAUGHTERS MANIFESTING AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND DEMANDING TO STOP THE MASSACRE OF OUR BOYS AND INNOCENT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD. I AM SURE YOUR DAUGHTERS ARE CARRYING ONE WITH THERE LIVES TEXTING FRIENDS AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT OUR BOYS THAT ARE DYING BECAUSE HONESTLY THEY ARE MAINLY THE ONES DOING THE FIGHTING, DYING AND THE IMMORAL KILLING ALSO. VERY, VERY SAD TO SEE MOTHERS BEING PROUD OF THEIR SONS GOING TO WAR AND UPSET THAT THEIR DAUGHTERS WOULD IF THEY HAD TO DO SO., THEY EVEN PUT A YELLOW RIBBON AROUND TREES TO SUPPORT THEM AHHHH!!..
      THESE SAME MOTHERS WOULD CRAP IN THEIR PANTS IF THEY HAD TO BE SENT TO WAR SIR (I HAVE BEEN THERE). IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO THE LIFE OF OUR SONS VERSUS YOUR DAUGHTERS. LET ME JUST REMIND YOU THAT " SONS LIVES DO/ ALSO MATTER", DEAR SIR. BY THE WAY IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A PICTURE OR VIDEO YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTERS PROTESTING AGAINST THE WAR IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND NOT BE COMFORTABLY AT HOME ONLY WORRYING ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTERS AND NOT OUR SONS ALSO. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I HAVE SAID FOR MANY YEARS, THE MOMENT THAT PEOPLE SEE OUR DAUGHTERS COMING BACK BACK IN CASKETS, THAT WILL BE THE MOMENT THAT THE OUTRAGE WILL TAKE PLACE AND MAYBE, JUST MAYBE PEOPLE ONCE AND FOR ALL WILL START REALLY PROTESTING AGAINST THE WAR AND STOPPING THIS GENOCIDE. GOD LOVES EQUALLY MEN AND WOMEN SIR, WE ARE ALL HIS CHILDREN. WOMEN ARE NOT, I REPEAT ARE NOT MORE IMPORTANT THEN MEN AND BY CONSEQUENCE NOT MORE IMPORTANT THEN OUR SONS. REFLECT ON THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO SUPPORT SENDING MY SONS TO WAR, BEFORE YOU DO THAT I SUGGEST THAT YOU SEND YOUR DAUGHTERS AHEAD OF THEM. MINE ARE 18 AND 21 AND THEY ARE MY ABSOLUTE LIFE. PUMA.

      • I say that Sol-DIE-rs are Sol-Die-rs no matter their gender. Anyone volunteering for 'duty' is a Dying soul for the corporation of the united states and the oil barons and drug lords that make up the american political class of this so called 'free' country where we get to vote for the new masters every 4 years!

  17. I agree with the article wholeheartedly. But I would like to see how the author squares his argument with the fact that the Israeli IDF conscripts women. I seriously would like an answer.

    • Thank you for the kind words, Jim.

      As for your question, the answer is simple: The Israeli IDF is flat out wrong on this. The standard by which we are commanded and equipped to measure and pursue truth is Scripture. What any secular, anti-Christ nation state does or doesn't do has no impact on this principle whatsoever.

      I hope that this clarification is helpful.

      In His grip,

      Scott

      • Scott, thank you. I look forward to helping my daughters be draft dodgers if this ever comes about. And with a clear conscience!!

        Blessings!

        Jim

    • Israel is a small country, defending itself from the surrounding Arab countries. Women help to defend it. Do you see Israeli women being sent to Iraq, Afghanistan or around the world? I don't think so. I think that is one huge difference between Israel and the U.S.

      • Of course there is no real difference between Israel and America. Israel controls and runs America.
        What is this so-called "State". The State is an abstraction. A man made thing. Someone's in control of this "State".
        Until those live persons are named who control the State nothing will change except for the worse. And drafting women at fight wars of Israel will only affirm that America is stated for the trash heap of history where it belongs. Women in the military can expect two things, guaranteed:
        Either raped by their fellow male troopers or raped and slaughtered by the enemy if captured. The neo-cons (Jews) that run the Pentagon and this country must be rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect.

  18. Another aspect of not having a draft, is that it protects us from unnecessary war. If the soldiers that are going to have to fight the war believe that the war is unjust or unnecessary, they can just leave, and the political leaders that wanted the war will have no army to fight with.

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